Season 2 Episode 3:
Being Black in the City part 2

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In part 2 of this episode, show hosts Dan Mikulskis and Mary Spencer welcome back Gavin Lewis (Managing Director at BlackRock, Member of the Diversity Project and Founder of Talkaboutblack) to continue their conversation about race in investing. You can listen to part 1 of the episode here.

Key takeaways:

  • Why BAME doesn’t make sense, and might just be there to provide comfort to white people
  • Making statements by reading books
  • The exhaustion of talking to white people about race
  • The difficulty associated with the lightbulb moment that many white people experienced this year
  • The bind this placed Black people in who were called upon to receive grief and asked to fix the problem at the same time
  • Purpose in investing – why are we producing the investment outcome in the first place?

Gavin’s recommendations – what can people read to become better informed to approach these conversations

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